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Je propose aux membres du forum un petit hommage à notre grand gourou en fun equity.
On post toutes les mains où l'on shove entre 5 et 20 bb et on se fait taper sur les doigts ou pas.

Je commence ouille....

PokerStars Game #35362585934: Tournament #210666094, $15.00+$1.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (75/150) - 2009/11/14 18:45:11 ET
Table '210666094 12' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: javierito_su (17257 in chips)
Seat 2: ksurounder11 (7860 in chips)
Seat 3: Evolution226 (5880 in chips)
Seat 4: BKsinn (3977 in chips)
Seat 5: $upor*$ave (4341 in chips)
Seat 6: TomAss001 (9859 in chips)
Seat 7: triggerhapy2 (8079 in chips)
Seat 8: stefan574 (3702 in chips)
Seat 9: Matt2.5RST (3169 in chips)
javierito_su: posts the ante 20
ksurounder11: posts the ante 20
Evolution226: posts the ante 20
BKsinn: posts the ante 20
$upor*$ave: posts the ante 20
TomAss001: posts the ante 20
triggerhapy2: posts the ante 20
stefan574: posts the ante 20
Matt2.5RST: posts the ante 20
BKsinn: posts small blind 75
$upor*$ave: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BKsinn
TomAss001: folds
triggerhapy2: calls 150
stefan574: folds
Matt2.5RST: folds
javierito_su: folds
ksurounder11: folds
Evolution226: folds
BKsinn: raises 3807 to 3957 and is all-in
$upor*$ave: folds
triggerhapy2: calls 3807
*** FLOP ***
*** TURN ***
*** RIVER *** {da}
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BKsinn: shows (two pair, Aces and Eights)
triggerhapy2: shows (two pair, Aces and Fives)
BKsinn collected 8244 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8244 | Rake 0
Board {da}
Seat 1: javierito_su folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: ksurounder11 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Evolution226 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: BKsinn (small blind) showed and won (8244) with two pair, Aces and Eights
Seat 5: $upor*$ave (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: TomAss001 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: triggerhapy2 showed and lost with two pair, Aces and Fives
Seat 8: stefan574 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Matt2.5RST folded before Flop (didn't bet)

PokerStars Game #35362477390: Tournament #210666094, $15.00+$1.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (75/150) - 2009/11/14 18:42:28 ET
Table '210666094 12' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: javierito_su (17562 in chips)
Seat 2: ksurounder11 (7310 in chips)
Seat 3: Evolution226 (6185 in chips)
Seat 4: BKsinn (1911 in chips)
Seat 5: $upor*$ave (6312 in chips)
Seat 6: TomAss001 (9939 in chips)
Seat 7: triggerhapy2 (7754 in chips)
Seat 8: stefan574 (4532 in chips)
Seat 9: Matt2.5RST (2619 in chips)
javierito_su: posts the ante 20
ksurounder11: posts the ante 20
Evolution226: posts the ante 20
BKsinn: posts the ante 20
$upor*$ave: posts the ante 20
TomAss001: posts the ante 20
triggerhapy2: posts the ante 20
stefan574: posts the ante 20
Matt2.5RST: posts the ante 20
Matt2.5RST: posts small blind 75
javierito_su: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BKsinn
ksurounder11: folds
Evolution226: folds
BKsinn: raises 1741 to 1891 and is all-in
$upor*$ave: raises 4401 to 6292 and is all-in
TomAss001: folds
triggerhapy2: folds
stefan574: folds
Matt2.5RST: folds
javierito_su: folds
Uncalled bet (4401) returned to $upor*$ave
*** FLOP ***
*** TURN ***
*** RIVER ***
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BKsinn: shows (two pair, Aces and Kings)
$upor*$ave: shows (a pair of Aces)
BKsinn collected 4187 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4187 | Rake 0
Board
Seat 1: javierito_su (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: ksurounder11 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Evolution226 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: BKsinn showed and won (4187) with two pair, Aces and Kings
Seat 5: $upor*$ave showed and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 6: TomAss001 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: triggerhapy2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: stefan574 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Matt2.5RST (small blind) folded before Flop

La précédente (limite fold ?)

PokerStars Game #35362421725: Tournament #210666094, $15.00+$1.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (60/120) - 2009/11/14 18:41:05 ET
Table '210666094 12' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: javierito_su (17877 in chips)
Seat 2: ksurounder11 (7325 in chips)
Seat 3: Evolution226 (2800 in chips)
Seat 4: BKsinn (4711 in chips)
Seat 5: $upor*$ave (6327 in chips)
Seat 6: TomAss001 (9954 in chips)
Seat 7: triggerhapy2 (7769 in chips)
Seat 8: stefan574 (4607 in chips)
Seat 9: Matt2.5RST (2754 in chips)
javierito_su: posts the ante 15
ksurounder11: posts the ante 15
Evolution226: posts the ante 15
BKsinn: posts the ante 15
$upor*$ave: posts the ante 15
TomAss001: posts the ante 15
triggerhapy2: posts the ante 15
stefan574: posts the ante 15
Matt2.5RST: posts the ante 15
stefan574: posts small blind 60
Matt2.5RST: posts big blind 120
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BKsinn
javierito_su: raises 180 to 300
ksurounder11: folds
Evolution226: raises 2485 to 2785 and is all-in
BKsinn: raises 1911 to 4696 and is all-in
$upor*$ave: folds
TomAss001: folds
triggerhapy2: folds
stefan574: folds
Matt2.5RST: folds
javierito_su: folds
Uncalled bet (1911) returned to BKsinn
*** FLOP ***
*** TURN ***
*** RIVER ***
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Evolution226: shows (two pair, Tens and Eights)
BKsinn: shows (a pair of Eights)
Evolution226 collected 6185 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6185 | Rake 0
Board
Seat 1: javierito_su folded before Flop
Seat 2: ksurounder11 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Evolution226 showed and won (6185) with two pair, Tens and Eights
Seat 4: BKsinn showed and lost with a pair of Eights
Seat 5: $upor*$ave folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: TomAss001 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: triggerhapy2 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: stefan574 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: Matt2.5RST (big blind) folded before Flop

PokerStars Game #35361090655: Tournament #210692153, $15.00+$1.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2009/11/14 18:08:04 ET
Table '210692153 6' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: monkeyfun44 (745 in chips)
Seat 2: ucberic (2055 in chips)
Seat 3: mrdutch2 (1305 in chips)
Seat 4: BKsinn (3315 in chips)
Seat 5: Lampjens (1310 in chips)
Seat 6: Pokeraver (3665 in chips)
Seat 7: frasser (2450 in chips)
Seat 8: Gnd007 (1560 in chips)
Seat 9: xdav54x (2350 in chips)
Pokeraver: posts small blind 50
frasser: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BKsinn
Gnd007: folds
xdav54x: folds
monkeyfun44: folds
ucberic: folds
mrdutch2: folds
BKsinn: raises 200 to 300
Lampjens: folds
Pokeraver: folds
frasser: folds
Uncalled bet (200) returned to BKsinn
BKsinn collected 250 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 250 | Rake 0
Seat 1: monkeyfun44 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: ucberic folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: mrdutch2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: BKsinn collected (250)
Seat 5: Lampjens (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Pokeraver (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: frasser (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Gnd007 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: xdav54x folded before Flop (didn't bet)

bksinn a écrit

big blind 150

Dealt to BKsinn

BKsinn: raises 3807 to 3957 and is all-in

bksinn "the overshover"

ce qui me fait halluciner c'est : triggerhapy2: calls 3807 triggerhapy2 showed !!

Enjoy! (non il vaut mieux pas me laisser de la dead money quand je dois parler derrière )

ca serait pas ev- comme push ca?

Bah imo non je fais que profiter de la dead money que le caller me laisse! Je le sens weak, et donc je lui reshove à gueule ensuite ca me fait du 985 à investir pour gagner un pot qui fait déjà 4835. Donc du 4,9:1 Avec du 16% ma main importe très peu en fait...

La seule chose dont je ne suis pas certain c'est la fréquence de fold du caller sur mon push! J'ai estimé qu'il allait peut-être caller avec le top 30/40% (en réalité pas mal de mains du haut de son range comme TT, JJ, AQ, AK sont très peu probables puisqu'il les aurait certainement reshove) et caller mon push avec le top 10% (il ne me semble pas l'avoir déjà vu faire de calls degueu avant). Donc en gros j'estimais avoir entre 65 et 80% de fold equity!

Ensuite le calcul pour connaître mon équité précise dans cette main est assez complexe à faire, puisqu'il y a beaucoup de cas à prendre en compte. Mais à vu de nez ca me semble très EV+

(kipik, si tu passes par là, ce serait cool que tu viennes corriger les éventuelles énormités que j'ai pu dire )

l'iso avec Q3 est superbe

par contre le gain du pot est chattage quand même !

bah c'est un 70/30...

yes1andno a écrit

Bah imo non je fais que profiter de la dead money que le caller me laisse! Je le sens weak, et donc je lui reshove à gueule ensuite ca me fait du 985 à investir pour gagner un pot qui fait déjà 4835. Donc du 4,9:1 Avec du 16% ma main importe très peu en fait...

La seule chose dont je ne suis pas certain c'est la fréquence de fold du caller sur mon push! J'ai estimé qu'il allait peut-être caller avec le top 30/40% (en réalité pas mal de mains du haut de son range comme TT, JJ, AQ, AK sont très peu probables puisqu'il les aurait certainement reshove) et caller mon push avec le top 10% (il ne me semble pas l'avoir déjà vu faire de calls degueu avant). Donc en gros j'estimais avoir entre 65 et 80% de fold equity!

Ensuite le calcul pour connaître mon équité précise dans cette main est assez complexe à faire, puisqu'il y a beaucoup de cas à prendre en compte. Mais à vu de nez ca me semble très EV+

(kipik, si tu passes par là, ce serait cool que tu viennes corriger les éventuelles énormités que j'ai pu dire )

je te posais la question comme ca.... pour te charier...evidement je pense que c'est un bon move. et là c'est pas une question de cote mais de situation comme dans une autre discussion....

Dead money ? Le caller ne fait que suivre ddonguo...
S'il avait relancé de 1000 et s'était couché après ton all-in, les 1000 serait devenu dead money parce que ddonguo ne pouvait gagner que sur base de ses 1685 imho....

pfffff....

Full Tilt Poker Game #16114309402: Satellite to MiniFTOPS #1 (118562841), Table 1 - 120/240 Ante 25 - No Limit Hold'em - 8:29:03 ET - 2009/11/18
Seat 1: aaronftw (6,675)
Seat 3: Lichard (11,295)
Seat 4: vladhhe89 (1,555)
Seat 5: nicoxy (8,490)
Seat 6: billy94 (5,190)
aaronftw antes 25
Lichard antes 25
vladhhe89 antes 25
nicoxy antes 25
billy94 antes 25
nicoxy posts the small blind of 120
billy94 posts the big blind of 240
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nicoxy
aaronftw folds
Lichard folds
vladhhe89 raises to 1,530, and is all in
nicoxy has 15 seconds left to act
nicoxy raises to 8,465, and is all in
billy94 folds
nicoxy shows
vladhhe89 shows
Uncalled bet of 6,935 returned to nicoxy
*** FLOP ***
*** TURN ***
*** RIVER ***
nicoxy shows two pair, Sevens and Threes
vladhhe89 shows two pair, Jacks and Sevens
vladhhe89 wins the pot (3,425) with two pair, Jacks and Sevens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,425 | Rake 0
Board:
Seat 1: aaronftw folded before the Flop
Seat 3: Lichard folded before the Flop
Seat 4: vladhhe89 (button) showed and won (3,425) with two pair, Jacks and Sevens
Seat 5: nicoxy (small blind) showed and lost with two pair, Sevens and Threes
Seat 6: billy94 (big blind) folded before the Flop

Rabiere a écrit

Dead money ? Le caller ne fait que suivre ddonguo...

S'il avait relancé de 1000 et s'était couché après ton all-in, les 1000 serait devenu dead money parce que ddonguo ne pouvait gagner que sur base de ses 1685 imho....

Bah oui justement c'est pour ca que je shove s'il raise avant moi au lieu de call je suis obligé de fold mon Q3... c'est l'argent qu'il a mis en callant et qu'il va abandonner sur mon shove la dead money!

vilain est un serial limper

PokerStars Game #35578272010: Tournament #229010494, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (250/500) - 2009/11/19 16:24:44 ET
Table '229010494 276' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: cubbies33559 (16700 in chips)
Seat 2: poul404 (4724 in chips)
Seat 3: carpetguy52 (15502 in chips)
Seat 4: Brandbyge (4993 in chips)
Seat 5: don_brasil (5585 in chips)
Seat 6: BKsinn (8852 in chips)
Seat 7: pokerietis (27696 in chips)
Seat 8: BUGIFARMEN (8858 in chips)
Seat 9: OldGoldWolf (9970 in chips)
cubbies33559: posts the ante 60
poul404: posts the ante 60
carpetguy52: posts the ante 60
Brandbyge: posts the ante 60
don_brasil: posts the ante 60
BKsinn: posts the ante 60
pokerietis: posts the ante 60
BUGIFARMEN: posts the ante 60
OldGoldWolf: posts the ante 60
cubbies33559: posts small blind 250
poul404: posts big blind 500
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BKsinn
carpetguy52: calls 500
Brandbyge: folds
don_brasil: folds
BKsinn: raises 8292 to 8792 and is all-in
pokerietis: folds
BUGIFARMEN: folds
OldGoldWolf: folds
cubbies33559: folds
poul404: folds
carpetguy52: calls 8292
*** FLOP ***
*** TURN ***
*** RIVER ***
*** SHOW DOWN ***
carpetguy52: shows (high card King)
BKsinn: shows (high card Ace)
BKsinn collected 18874 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 18874 | Rake 0
Board
Seat 1: cubbies33559 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: poul404 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: carpetguy52 showed and lost with high card King
Seat 4: Brandbyge folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: don_brasil folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: BKsinn showed and won (18874) with high card Ace
Seat 7: pokerietis folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: BUGIFARMEN folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: OldGoldWolf (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

serial donker egalement, non

AlexLaak a écrit

serial donker egalement, non

indeed

100 places avt la bulle. Classique ...

PokerStars Game #35578982452: Tournament #229010494, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (300/600) - 2009/11/19 16:39:32 ET
Table '229010494 131' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: Gutfix (7991 in chips)
Seat 2: smokepope (5970 in chips)
Seat 3: miroslaf (11250 in chips)
Seat 4: mannorak (23055 in chips)
Seat 5: angel5565 (28084 in chips)
Seat 6: BKsinn (16245 in chips)
Seat 7: Vallog 1 (9905 in chips)
Seat 8: SNGWizard (11973 in chips)
Seat 9: swifterjet (20411 in chips)
Gutfix: posts the ante 70
smokepope: posts the ante 70
miroslaf: posts the ante 70
mannorak: posts the ante 70
angel5565: posts the ante 70
BKsinn: posts the ante 70
Vallog 1: posts the ante 70
SNGWizard: posts the ante 70
swifterjet: posts the ante 70
Gutfix: posts small blind 300
smokepope: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BKsinn
miroslaf: folds
mannorak: folds
angel5565: folds
BKsinn: raises 15575 to 16175 and is all-in
Vallog 1: folds
SNGWizard: folds
swifterjet: folds
Gutfix: calls 7621 and is all-in
smokepope: folds
Uncalled bet (8254) returned to BKsinn
*** FLOP ***
*** TURN ***
*** RIVER ***
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Gutfix: shows (two pair, Jacks and Nines)
BKsinn: shows (two pair, Kings and Nines)
BKsinn collected 17072 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 17072 | Rake 0
Board
Seat 1: Gutfix (small blind) showed and lost with two pair, Jacks and Nines
Seat 2: smokepope (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: miroslaf folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: mannorak folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: angel5565 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: BKsinn showed and won (17072) with two pair, Kings and Nines
Seat 7: Vallog 1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: SNGWizard folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: swifterjet (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

30bb, le shove n'est pas mauvais mais tu peux quand même faire mieux, non ?

Ca devient une sorte de drogue après la fun equity...Niark, niark.

PokerStars Game #35602374678: Tournament #213228381, $8.00+$0.80 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level X (100/200) - 2009/11/20 7:28:14 ET
Table '213228381 37' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: BKsinn (4069 in chips)
Seat 2: flynwld (10110 in chips)
Seat 3: Quace (8040 in chips)
Seat 4: FAT.MIC.CHIP (10576 in chips)
Seat 5: cuob1 (1935 in chips)
Seat 6: owl1975 (5186 in chips)
Seat 7: samot54 (5383 in chips)
Seat 8: stern11111 (14006 in chips)
Seat 9: jencaissetou (33600 in chips)
BKsinn: posts the ante 25
flynwld: posts the ante 25
Quace: posts the ante 25
FAT.MIC.CHIP: posts the ante 25
cuob1: posts the ante 25
owl1975: posts the ante 25
samot54: posts the ante 25
stern11111: posts the ante 25
jencaissetou: posts the ante 25
BKsinn: posts small blind 100
flynwld: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BKsinn
Quace: folds
FAT.MIC.CHIP: folds
cuob1: folds
owl1975: calls 200
samot54: folds
stern11111: calls 200
jencaissetou: calls 200
BKsinn: raises 3844 to 4044 and is all-in
flynwld: folds
owl1975: folds
stern11111: folds
jencaissetou: folds
Uncalled bet (3844) returned to BKsinn
BKsinn collected 1225 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1225 | Rake 0
Seat 1: BKsinn (small blind) collected (1225)
Seat 2: flynwld (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Quace folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: FAT.MIC.CHIP folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: cuob1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: owl1975 folded before Flop
Seat 7: samot54 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: stern11111 folded before Flop
Seat 9: jencaissetou (button) folded before

en même temps, on peut pousser loin le fun, hein

PokerStars Game #35603099382: Tournament #229010195, $30+$3 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (400/800) - 2009/11/20 8:00:40 ET

Table '229010195 15' 9-max Seat #4 is the button

Seat 1: Gavana (36756 in chips)

Seat 2: Kingfish666 (1342 in chips)

Seat 3: WarnbroMB (4441 in chips)

Seat 4: allintreats (6613 in chips)

Seat 5: shawnk555 (24937 in chips)

Seat 6: TheSeedOfRED (7795 in chips)

Seat 7: Abellyus (29809 in chips)

Seat 8: capitan0 (14467 in chips)

Gavana: posts the ante 75

Kingfish666: posts the ante 75

WarnbroMB: posts the ante 75

allintreats: posts the ante 75

shawnk555: posts the ante 75

TheSeedOfRED: posts the ante 75

Abellyus: posts the ante 75

capitan0: posts the ante 75

shawnk555: posts small blind 400

TheSeedOfRED: posts big blind 800

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to Abellyus

Abellyus: raises 975 to 1775

capitan0: folds

Gavana: folds

Kingfish666: folds

WarnbroMB: folds

allintreats: folds

shawnk555: raises 2525 to 4300

TheSeedOfRED: folds

Abellyus: raises 25434 to 29734 and is all-in

shawnk555: calls 20562 and is all-in

Uncalled bet (4872) returned to Abellyus

*** FLOP ***

*** TURN ***

*** RIVER ***

*** SHOW DOWN ***

shawnk555: shows (a flush, Ace high)

Abellyus: shows (a pair of Nines)

shawnk555 collected 51124 from pot

trop loin, ptet ?